The Dongola Times

(Anachronistic) Dispatches from the Kingdom of Makuria.
07th of June, 2014

Altercation #1.5

This is a response I sent in the context of Altercation #1. My interlocutor is in the block-quotes:
The Talmud Tractate "Yoma" contains remembrance that during the God-commanded Ritual of Yom Kippur, as a Levite led one goat out to the wilderness …
Indeed, and not just that. The Rabbinics have a long list of such observations, but they seem unable to conclude *The Epistle to the Hebrews*. A lot of strange things did happen in that 40-year gap, and still “their hearts were veiled.”

But “the Zealot” is far before the time of these things, which are of course after Jesus. “Simon the Zealot” was there already, so we are talking of inspiration for zealotry that predates this.

You should note how greatly celebrated the militant priest Onias is in 1 & 2 Maccabees, along with the rest of the armed pious. This was explicit propaganda from which a movement exactly like the Zealots could take inspiration—zealous for the Law, and therefore armed against the pagan occupier. This is basically the theme of Maccabees.

Whatever "ho zelotes" meant in 30-33AD, we have *no known context* in which to be CERTAIN that we know Exactly what it meant.
No, there is a whole lot of communication about the Zealots; Josephus actually describes them (in Koine Greek, too). In Book 7, Josephus distinguishes the Sicarii and the Zealots, with what we may assume was the mainstream view that answers to Luke’s article “*the* Zealot”, but he isn’t the only one who refers to that group he means (not even in the Greek alone).

We can see a clear cause for radicalization in the decades leading up to 66-70AD, however.
The Zealots were not (only) a response to what happened between Calvary and AD70. They were older than this, hence their appearance in the title of a disciple.

And I know that the problem may be with having to live with the fact that Jesus’ company included men who belonged to groups like the Zealots (as, say, Josephus describes them). We would have a right to expect that the disciple was in fact a saint after Christ was through with him, but we don’t have the right to reject in Christ’s name what He Himself didn’t reject.

I believe Simon Peter is identified as "Protos" …
I also believe that Simon Peter was the leader of the Twelve. (It is not an honour, though, as some seem to misinterpret it when they bicker for the supremacy of this one or the other.)